NIGHT SWIM PODCAST
Prepare to be submerged in the murky depths of "Night Swim," a new breed of horror that turns the familiar setting of a backyard pool into a pit of terror. With film virtuosos Jason Blum "Get Out, The Purge" and James Wan "Fast & Furious" The Conjuring" at the helm, the episode peels back the layers of this aquatic nightmare, revealing the creative currents that drive the film. You won't want to miss the spine-tingling insights from director Bryce McGuire and the on-edge performances by Wyatt Russell "The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, Monarch: Legacy of Monsters" and Kerry Condon "The Banshees of Inisherin, Avengers: End Game" They challenge the norms of horror storytelling and evoke a fear of the water that will have you gripping your pool noodles tight.
As we pull back the curtain on the artistry behind "Night Swim," we examine the complexities of capturing dread beneath the waves. The episode wades into the treacherous waters of filming underwater horror and the unique challenges it presents to cast and crew. We'll get up close with the haunting dynamics between characters, the power of minimal dialogue, and the haunting tension that even daylight can't dispel. It's not all about what's lurking beneath, though; we celebrate the craft of movie-making and the magical ability of horror to unite us in fear and fascination.
Concluding the episode, we invite you to the Cinema Judge, an oasis for cinephiles longing for the stories behind the stories. This is a toast to the timeless allure of cinema and the movies like "Night Swim" that dare to make a splash, reminding us that sometimes the most familiar places can harbor the deepest fears. So, join us as we embrace the eerie, the unexpected, and the shared delight of a good scare.
NIGHT SWIM PODCAST
Prepare to be submerged in the murky depths of "Night Swim," a new breed of horror that turns the familiar setting of a backyard pool into a pit of terror. With film virtuosos Jason Blum "Get Out, The Purge" and James Wan "Fast & Furious" The Conjuring" at the helm, the episode peels back the layers of this aquatic nightmare, revealing the creative currents that drive the film. You won't want to miss the spine-tingling insights from director Bryce McGuire and the on-edge performances by Wyatt Russell "The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, Monarch: Legacy of Monsters" and Kerry Condon "The Banshees of Inisherin, Avengers: End Game" They challenge the norms of horror storytelling and evoke a fear of the water that will have you gripping your pool noodles tight.
As we pull back the curtain on the artistry behind "Night Swim," we examine the complexities of capturing dread beneath the waves. The episode wades into the treacherous waters of filming underwater horror and the unique challenges it presents to cast and crew. We'll get up close with the haunting dynamics between characters, the power of minimal dialogue, and the haunting tension that even daylight can't dispel. It's not all about what's lurking beneath, though; we celebrate the craft of movie-making and the magical ability of horror to unite us in fear and fascination.
Concluding the episode, we invite you to the Cinema Judge, an oasis for cinephiles longing for the stories behind the stories. This is a toast to the timeless allure of cinema and the movies like "Night Swim" that dare to make a splash, reminding us that sometimes the most familiar places can harbor the deepest fears. So, join us as we embrace the eerie, the unexpected, and the shared delight of a good scare.
Because we now have the Cinema Judge.
Speaker 1:Hello, hello, hello and welcome to the Cinema, judge, I hope my voice finds you well. To all my regulars out there, welcome back. If you knew the show, welcome aboard. Now approaching the bench, today we have the new horror film Night Swim, and it is produced by Jason Blum and James Wan, and I don't know if you've followed us at all for the last couple years, or what have you. Both of these guys had their own companies. They've basically merged them both together to make one giant horror company, because both of these guys they dabble in little different elements of horror, but yet they still kind of meet in the middle of some places. And that's what makes these guys work so well together, and that's what they've done. They've brought their stuff together to bring us movies like Night Swim. So here's the tagline for Night Swim A family moves into a new home, unaware that a dark secret from the house's past will unleash an evil force in a backyard pool. Here's a trailer. Thanks a lot.
Speaker 2:Why do you think we're stupid when we all fall asleep? Where do?
Speaker 5:we go Kiss me? No, he didn't. When we were fixing up the pool pow, they said it hadn't been used in 15 years. Maybe they weren't pool people.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 5:This is not for the kids. You should be scared of pools.
Speaker 3:Sider, come on, sider.
Speaker 6:Getting a vibe here. Do you have a boyfriend?
Speaker 3:No, hey, someone's coming over in a minute. You're bound. Shut up, marco. You need to say something back. Ronan Marco, why aren't you saying anything?
Speaker 5:My kids have seen things and I'm worried something is happening to my husband.
Speaker 2:Dad, I've been looking for you.
Speaker 7:There has to be some way to stop this.
Speaker 6:Marco.
Speaker 2:Elliot, marco, marco, marco, marco Marco.
Speaker 1:Marco, what I really admire about Jason Blum and James Wan is this Well, I mean, other than their incredible talent and everything they bring to us, they take chances on new directors, young directors who have a vision, know what they're doing. Maybe they've made a short film, like the director of this one did. James Wan figured this would make a great story and they take that chance and let a new director work with their vision. And that takes a lot of courage and just faith in the up-and-coming directors and I just totally admire that, because the easy thing to do would be, of course, get a major name of a director and have somebody else do it, or James Wan could do it himself. No, he doesn't do that. Both him and Jason Blum believe in sharing the wealth, giving people a shot, and I just, I just really admire them for doing that. Come up in a little bit you're going to hear it from James Wan talking about that how he saw this as a short film and he gave the director a shot to do it, and his name is Bryce McGuire. Night Swim also stars the incredible Wyatt Russell as Ray, kerry Condon as his wife I don't know if it's Eve or Eva, I thought they say Eva later on in these interviews, but you know what I'm saying Emily Hafella as the daughter and Gavin Warren as the son Now coming up next, I'm going to have a couple of featurettes for you and in these featurettes they're going to be talking about the movie.
Speaker 1:We're first going to hear from James Wan, jason Blum, then the director, bryce McGuire, and we'll be going back and forth between them during this featurette. Because if you want to watch the TV version of this, at the end of the show I'll give you a website so you can watch the interviews and watch the clips, because also in the TV version, I have a lot of On Asset footage and the red carpet. So if you're interested in that, that offers you a lot more to look at, because putting that on here doesn't really play well, it doesn't make any sense. So if you like watching on-the-set footage and world premiere footage, I have that on the TV version, which I'll give you a website for. I just want to give you a little forewarning. I have a couple of featureettes I'm going to play during this show and within those featureettes they have many clips that they have from the interviews that are larger when you play them on their own. So here's that first featureette.
Speaker 4:We all have this inherent fear of being in the water.
Speaker 5:I think we should put in a pool cover.
Speaker 8:Even though in your mind, you understand that the pool is only a few feet deep. Marco, hello, when the lights go out, anything could be beneath you.
Speaker 9:This is a story about a family who, seeking a better life, moves in this house with a backyard pool, wanting fun and time together.
Speaker 5:Maybe we should have the cookout or something.
Speaker 6:That's a great idea.
Speaker 9:And what they get is a terrifying secret that is hidden beneath the surface of that water.
Speaker 4:It's important for me to find the next generation of filmmakers who have what it takes but may not have the platform to be seen.
Speaker 9:I was substitute teaching elementary school and I was writing. Night's Womb is about how I felt when I was a kid in a pool by myself, convinced that there was something beneath me.
Speaker 2:You saw something, didn't you?
Speaker 9:James Wan and Jason Blum made some of the most iconic horror films of the last decade and a half. You team up and it's a roller coaster ride.
Speaker 8:With Bryce. We were completely won over by his passion and vision for the movie.
Speaker 9:I want people to be holding their breath in the theater. It's like edgier sea biting your nails. There's something beneath the water.
Speaker 6:The next time you jump in your swimming pool, you're gonna think twice.
Speaker 9:In water we become prey really f***ing quickly.
Speaker 6:Everyone's had that feeling of like what's in the pool, especially at night.
Speaker 3:What is?
Speaker 7:it exactly you feel something swim past your leg. It's like, yeah, oh, my god, I don't like thinking about those things.
Speaker 9:Our ambition was to rule the swimming pool forever. I wanna end my life.
Speaker 4:This may search a braily end concept, anything could be beneath you.
Speaker 7:I was so scared. Yeah, I suppose it is scary.
Speaker 3:I don't know if I'm gonna be able to watch it.
Speaker 6:There's something lurking. The hell is that.
Speaker 9:It's not a safe environment.
Speaker 6:It's so much fun. Don't swim alone.
Speaker 4:Only off all the sleep. Why do we?
Speaker 1:What do you guys think You're getting a good feel for what this movie's about, where it's gonna take ya. And here's one more thing I wanna talk about what. Why admire Jason Blum and James Wan? They're gonna talk about this a little bit later too, but I just wanted to say it because I feel the same way. I enjoy that they take chances on new concepts. Yes, these guys do make sequels, sometimes on their movies or a lot, but that's not all they do. They do make new movies. They're willing to take that chance because they know how to control the budget. They know what they're doing when they make movies. They've done it enough times. They have it all just perfectly figured out and I really enjoy that, because we've seen so many sequels and reboots and everything like that. These guys are willing to say you know what, you're our fans. Thank you for following us and keep coming to our movies. We're gonna keep taking chances. Not everyone's a home run, but not everyone's a pile of mud, and that's the fun is just making movies and taking chances.
Speaker 1:Now coming up next we're gonna hear from the writer-director. He's talked a little bit more about the story, and then we're gonna hear from James Wan and he also discusses what a brilliant new idea this is. He talks about how they've made a lot of haunting things in the past, but never have they done a pool. It's kind of like that whole turn on jaws where you don't want to go into the lake anymore or ocean. This one is do I really want to go into the pool at night, because that changes the atmosphere completely? And then we're gonna hear again from the director just talking about how mind-blowing it is to be able to work with these two legends of movies. And he's doing it himself, but they're there guiding him, teaching him and just helping him along. I mean, can you imagine that You're just this up-and-coming director and you have these two legends of horror and filmmaking there right next to you helping you out? I mean that would be just mind-blowing, what I mean? I'd be just like, dude, I've made it, what more do I need? And then we're gonna play a clip for you and in this clip the sun, he's in the pool, it's daylight and that's what. Nothing.
Speaker 1:Sometimes scary things could happen to a daylight, just like in the first Halloween. Most of the scares and tension was during the afternoon. And that's the sign of a good script director, writing whatever you want to say, because making somebody afraid during broad daylight, that's a whole new level of trying to ramp up the tension. He's in the pool and he hears a voice Little girl's saying something and he goes to one of the vents in the pool you know where the water gets filtrated in and out and he hears a voice in there. But then he sees it like a doll or something like that. So he reaches in there and then a hand comes out and grabs him. That's the scene in a nutshell. Here it goes.
Speaker 9:This is a story about an average suburban backyard swimming pool that hides a terrifying secret, and the family who's seeking a better life moves in this house with a backyard pool, wanting the things that all of us want from a pool Fun and time together, diversion and what they get instead is a terrifying secret that is hidden beneath the surface of that water.
Speaker 4:So the short. I thought this was such a brilliant concept. We've had many kind of haunted haunting movies over the years, but we've never really had a haunted swimming pool movie, and I just left that idea. We all have this inherent fear of just swimming in general being in the water, because we're not made technically to be in the water, but there's just something about it that draws us to it right, and so the idea of taking this thing that is supposedly fun and twisting it and making it darker and finding the potential scary story within this was exciting to us.
Speaker 9:It's such a pinch me moment to be working with Jason Blum and James Wan on a movie like this, which is just so perfectly in the middle of both of their wheelhouses, like right in that VIN diagram where their stuff overlaps. I feel like Knife Swim just fits there, and it's been amazing to have their guidance and ideas and support as we've made this film. That's been incredible. Hello.
Speaker 2:Can you hear me? I need help. I'm looking for my mom.
Speaker 3:Who are you? My name is Rebecca Summers.
Speaker 2:I found your toys.
Speaker 1:Now I don't know about you guys, but if I'm in a pool and I hear a voice coming from this place that really shouldn't have a voice, I just don't think I'd approach it. I mean, maybe I would and that's what makes horror movies so wonderful is, sometimes you think I would never do that. But then there are times in real life they say, if you're upstairs and you hear a noise in the basement, it's pitch, black out and maybe the light doesn't work. Do you go down? Sometimes we do because we're like, come on, that's the movies, nothing will happen. But yet we still go down. So I'm thinking okay, I'm in a pool, would I approach this area where there's no person around you, just hear the voice? You know it's like the whole it thing If you've never seen the movie, it or read the book. Same kind of principle when you hear a voice in a sewer do you approach or don't you? You know it's, there's so many options and we could talk about that all day, but it's still just a fun concept.
Speaker 1:And I'm not gonna lie to you, I'm not the greatest swimmer in the world. I could barely float. I'm more of a doggie paddle type guy. You know I can stay afloat and you know there's wade water. But I can't really sit there on my back and just float relaxing and go la, la, la For me, I just get all panicky. The water's right up there by your eyes and, oh, it's not my cup of tea. So these kind of movies always do give me a little bit of a creepy creepy feeling, because I remember, and I think I said some TV show way back in the early 80s. They had this scene where they were in the pool and they had to shot from underneath. You see all the legs kicking and then you see this hand come up, grab this person by the ankle, pull them down and then they handcuff them to the grate at the bottom and the person could see everybody above them but he couldn't do anything. That's forever singed in my mind. I think it was just a normal TV show, but, man, that just freaked me out. And that's a whole other element too shooting underwater. And we're gonna have an interview from the director talking about that, Because you know, when you're shooting underwater there's so many things that go wrong and he talks about that. I'll just let him get into that a little bit more.
Speaker 1:And then we're gonna hear from Jason Blum talking about how lucky they are to have Carrie Condon be part of this movie, because, if you don't know, she's been in a lot of movies Captain America, Endgame, unleashed, and I'm gonna butcher the name of this movie and I watched it and it was one really unique film. And they talk about this. Jason Blum does the Banshees of Inscheren Again. I know I said that wrong. It was a very, very unique film. If you haven't seen it, check it out. But I'm gonna forewarn you it's pretty bleak. At some point You're like what am I watching? But I'm not saying it's bad, it's just, again, extremely unique.
Speaker 1:And then we're gonna hear from Carrie and I like this interview. She talks about one of the reasons she really want to do this role. It's not all lovey-dovey, it's real kind of banter back and forth, people are arguing, they're having fights. It's not the perfect relationship where it's a honey bunny. It's real situations where it's not just everything's bunnies and marshmallows, you know, but that's just kind of cool why she took the role.
Speaker 1:And then we're gonna hear from Jason Blum again talking a little bit more about the character Eve. So now I know it's Eve, not Evie, or whatever I said at the beginning it is officially Eve I just now I know and he talks, like I said, more about the character. And then we go back to Carrie and she talks about working with Wyatt Russell, that how important it was for her to really bond and connect and have to commit to the role and into the scenes that are happening. And it's just cool having her talk about that. You'll wait for it. It's really kind of cool. And then we're gonna hear from Wyatt talking about working with Carrie and then back to James Wan talking about having them both together, how lucky they are that both these guys just worked so good together and they were just very lucky Shooting in water is definitely a significant challenge.
Speaker 9:The kind of general of thumb is take how much time you think it's gonna be and then double it when you're working in the water. Everything is slow, lighting is slow, the way you move in it, communication is difficult because you have to have underwater speakers that I'm giving direction to, and those will always work, and there's lack of visibility. Sometimes Someone's supposed to hit a mark but they can't see where that mark is because there's turbidity in the water and it's hard to see. It's dark down there. We'd have basically like someone as a guy with a glow stick, giving an eye line right Just to kind of punch through that darkness and give them a way to track you know where they're looking in the scene. So all of that was it's just it's planning more than you've ever planned for anything on any shoot and then knowing that 30% of it's still gonna go wrong.
Speaker 8:We cast Carrie while she was on the awards campaign for the Banshees of Inno Shirin. We were in complete admiration of her talent and we were thrilled to see that audiences agreed.
Speaker 7:It is a better family and I like the dynamic that there's problems in their relationship, which I was really liked also because I hate when you see movies and the parents are always really nice to the kids and it's like man who's like that all the time? Nobody's like that all the time.
Speaker 8:She embodies Eve in such a way that we feel all of her emotions. We feel love, passion, fear and a compelling need to protect her family at any cost.
Speaker 7:I'd never met Wyatt before and I was just really glad that he was the kind of person who kind of like like another thing with her is kind of like you have to sort of go big and then you can kind of like reign it back a little bit. But if you're not gonna go big, it's just gonna feel really stupid, you know, and awkward Because it's like okay, well, you can't apologize for this Like it's either happening or it isn't. And he totally is very great at just like giving it 100%, like totally going for it and totally doing it really good, which you know. Then it's just so easier because you believe that the person's like choking and then you can react. So that was like a very, such a relief when those tricky scenes came and he was very gung-ho about doing them, like really really doing them and committing to doing them and not holding back at all.
Speaker 6:It's a huge aspect of the story making that relationship work. And so when we got together and did rehearsal first few times we got together, it was like it made me feel very comfortable going, oh god, like a big sigh of relief. Where that relationship works, you're liking the person, you like each other, you're having a fun time on set, like that's hopefully bleeding into the performances and also just the story. And yeah, but she's really the one that you see the story unfold through. She's sort of the arbiter of how we find out what the problem with the pool is and she has to sort of run the gamut of storytelling through her eyes.
Speaker 4:Wyatt and Carrie are such talented actors. We're very lucky to have them in this film, and having Wyatt and Carrie to be the two people to help anchor that particular dramatic story point is extremely important because they help us ground the movie in a way where we believe in their predicament and, ultimately, when they have to do what they have to do to fight the evil that comes with the swimming pool, the curse of water, you believe in their journey to do so.
Speaker 1:I love that line, the curse of water because we all know water can do so many things and it's just I love that term, the curse of water. It pretty much sums up all real and imagined fears of when you're in the water, from sharks to whatever it may be. It's just really fascinating. And Carrie talks about that too, coming up next next interview being vulnerable, the vulnerability of being in the water. Does it matter how good of a swimmer you are, you are vulnerable.
Speaker 1:And then we have a clip for you and in this clip it's the night swim. She's in there swimming at night and it's. I love how they shoot this. They show Her coming towards the camera underneath the water, but then they also shift it to Her perspective of her head, turning side by side, and sometimes you could see above the water. Then you see underwater, above the water, and then house on. At one point she thinks you see somebody standing on the on the ledge and she's like, whoa, hey, you scared me, but nobody's there. So she's waiting in the water a little bit and then the lights start to flicker in the pool from also going completely out to on, completely out, and if that was me, I would just scream like a little baby boy and I'd be Hightailing it out of that pool like nobody's business. The cyclist cartoon it just we see the shadow of the person go through the wall, or whatever. That'd be me. Chicken coward yellow, whatever you want to call that's me, that's the scene.
Speaker 7:There is like a vulnerability in water. I think that, um, a lot of people have it, even if you are a confident swimmer, there's a notion that, like the water really has more control over you, no matter how great you are at swimming or how great you're at surfing or whatever. It's like nature and and that has, um, you know it's stronger than you.
Speaker 2:Care to be.
Speaker 1:And I get it. There wasn't a lot of audio or I shouldn't say audio a lot of dialogue in that particular scene, and I struggle with that sometimes. Should I play clips that don't have a lot of audio? You can hear the ambient noise and get the tone of the scene, but I just don't know if it takes you out of it and you're like come on, move along, buddy, let's go. So if that's ever an issue for you guys, just let me know. At the end I'm gonna give you some Places where you could contact me, whether it be my email or platforms, because I don't want to bore you. That's not my. That's what I want to do here. I want you to come here and learn about a movie and maybe not be bored by it. So that's just a little side note.
Speaker 1:Now coming up next, we're gonna hear from Wyatt Russell and he's be talking about the director and how much he enjoys working with him. But I want to let you know too you probably know the name you're thinking who's Wyatt Russell. Maybe a lot of you know that. He was in the Falcon, in the Winter Soldier, the woman in the window and he's also in the apple plus tv show, monarch legacy of monsters. I truly enjoyed that. In that particular show he plays the same character as his real-life father, kurt Russell. In the tv show Kurt Russell plays the older version of the one character and he plays, and then Wyatt plays the younger version. They don't play father son, they play the same character just years apart. If you're into that kind of stuff, it is a really really well made tv show. It's it's Godzilla kind of origin type story, if you will, but it's really well done. Even the special facts are good. Apple tv plus usually doesn't skimp on quality. So if you're into that kind of thing, check out Wyatt in Monarch legacy of monsters, and then we're gonna hear from Jason Blum talking about working with Wyatt.
Speaker 1:And then we have another feature at for you, and in this feature, ed, it's pretty much about this pool party, and then after that we're gonna play the scene for you after another interview. But in this feature, ed, this is what it's all about. They just talk about there's a whole bunch of people in this pool party. They're playing games and then something does happen where this Gunk comes from underneath and then gets into a guy's mouth, pretty much possessing them. But the trials of shooting In the water. It's just one of those fine examples of all right, yeah, this is for real, we really have to shoot it like this. And it talks about the complications and shows you again at the end of the show. I'm gonna give you a website so you can watch these. Feature Ed's to not listen to them, but here's those interviews then that.
Speaker 8:Quiet is an extremely dynamic actor. He can be the comedic relief, the warm father figure, but also deliver the chilling scares that are all aspects of Ray's character.
Speaker 9:We are shooting the Nightmare Pool Party of All Time. Happy sunny day. But this swimming pool hides a terrifying secret. You oftentimes don't see movies that feature real in-water camera work.
Speaker 7:There's so many aspects to underwater camera work it's very tricky.
Speaker 9:What we're leading up to today involves sort of the water POV.
Speaker 8:The camera is going to rush into his mouth. I read the hatchet of the beverage.
Speaker 6:You have to think about. Okay, where are the bubbles traveling? What does the hair do? How deep?
Speaker 9:can we get? How long can the actress hold her breath?
Speaker 6:You rely heavily on signals and underwater speakers. There's a lot of people that got to come together to prep for this.
Speaker 8:It's incredibly sophisticated to do.
Speaker 3:Marco.
Speaker 1:I can't even imagine how hard it would be to try to shoot something like that All these elements that could go wrong and they will go wrong, but you still get to try to get that shot to make it feel authentic.
Speaker 1:Now coming up next we're going to hear from Jason Blum and he's going to talk about what does he think the audience will expect from this film.
Speaker 1:And then we're going to have that clip about that pool party and it's one of those creepy scenes.
Speaker 1:Again, in the scene there I'll have it fun and the kid is on a guy's shoulder right and they're all trying to push the other kid over and all this other stuff, and then the guy's head is underneath the water and that's when that gunk comes up there and the camera goes into his mouth and then it pulls back out and then you just you can see like close up of his eye Oops, I touched the microphone there, sorry about that guys and he pulls back or the camera pulls back and you just see the guy pretty much possessed and then he kind of locks his arms around the kids like ankles or knees or whatever, and then they cut down to his feet, are in the pool and he seemed walking slowly back and he heard the kid going hey, let go, let go. And you see the pool slope down to the deep end. And then they cut slowly up and he says, hey, let go. And then, boom, he pops underneath the water. That kind of stuff always just freaks me out, but that's what's coming up next.
Speaker 8:I think audiences are going to love the scares, I think they're going to love the cast, but most of all, I think they're going to be really scared to get back into a swimming pool after watching Night Swim.
Speaker 2:Let's go, let's take him down. Come on Ty. Come on Ty. He goes with your ladle. Get your mic and go, let's go, let's go, let's go. All right, you got to go now. Swallow it, swallow it, let's go, let's go.
Speaker 1:Let's go See what I'm saying. That gulp, that fear being pulled under there it is. I think most of us have that fear. Obviously I'm not the only one, but man, that just gets to me Now coming up. Next, we're going to have several interviews from the red carpet and I'm not going to get in the way on this one, because that's annoying when I interrupt every interview to say this is what they're talking about. So I'm just going to give you a list in order of who's coming up from the red carpet interviews. First we're going to have the writer-director, bryce McGuire, james Wan, jason Blum, keri Brandon, wyatt Russell.
Speaker 1:And one quick more note here on Wyatt Russell. I didn't know of so recently. I guess for years before he got into acting he was a goalie, semi-pro or pro. I apologize, I have top of my head, I don't remember. I just remember seeing an interview or a clip about that. But I didn't know he was a goalie. You know what they say about goalies and if you don't look it up, but that's just really cool that he played hockey, he was a goalie. And now here he is. Now I don't know, I just found that really cool. And then we have young actress who plays the daughter, and I'm going to try to say her name again and I'll do my best Emily Hafella, and I realize that's horribly wrong, but that's just coming up next from the red carpet.
Speaker 9:I shouldn't face it from camera, but I just got to take this in for a beat because it is truly dream come true. And I'm not just saying this because this is in-house universal, this is from my heart. No one else knows how to put out an original movie like Universal Studios, and they've been doing it before. It was cool and before everyone was trying to make money with low budget genre original concept. Universal has been doing that for a long time, a very long time, which is why I was thrilled to end up at Universal, truly so.
Speaker 9:My favorite Aquatic Horror Movies Jaws, creature From the Black Lagoon. Going way back when I met with Peter Kramer, I was just like, do you know what it means to me to have that Universal logo before this movie? Like that's the movies that got me into wanting to make movies, and specifically Aquatic Horror Movies. So it really is such a pinch me moment. I think we should leave. Hot tubs are safe for now. Safe for now, but you never know. You never know. Hot tub, hot tub.
Speaker 9:Some part of us knows that we don't belong in water anymore and that we get knocked down the totem pole very quickly. We're not the apex predator in water. Things can hurt us in water that couldn't on land. We're vulnerable and I think it just taps into that kind of primal state of weakness we're not on top of the food chain in the water.
Speaker 9:So I love getting to toy with that and use that against the audience and make them feel that, yeah, I hope that it sparks the same kind of loyalty and just fandom around those things. They're so good at creating a culture where you want to be in on the next story, the next world, the next character. You want to be a part of that club and I think Jason James both of them are really really great the best that there is with creating that secret society that you're just like desperate to be a part of. And I hope that, yeah, night's Twin becomes one of those clubs that you want your insignia ring and you're like you want to be in that swim team. So, yeah, I could not be more lucky to have those two giants of the genre stand on their shoulders. It's amazing.
Speaker 4:Well, the great thing about seeing short films is you can actually see the potential that the short film has, right, you can see what it is about it that works. The concept and the concept of a scary haunted swimming pool is something that hasn't been done before, and I left that idea. I've done enough haunted house, ghost stories and all that, but I've never done a scary haunted swimming pool idea, and the fact that we all have swimming pool at home these days just meant that it's a very sort of relevant concept here. Let's be honest, you know, us humans, we're not really made to, we're not accustomed for the water right, like you know. We can go for quick little swims, but we're not built for it. So if there's something underneath there that is scary, we can't see it and it's not what we're designed to do, and so I think that really helps add to the primal fear that we have of water.
Speaker 4:When you go see a scary movie, it's always more fun to see it with your friends or somebody can hang on to and scream and shout, and scream and shout yes, that's right and laugh at your friend when they scream too loud. It's part of the world that we live in, in the sense that we enjoy scaring people, but we also want it to be fun as well, and I think Night Swim falls perfectly in that world, where we're here to entertain and we want people to have a good time. I wanted to be scared, throw their popcorns in the air, but I also want them to have fun.
Speaker 8:Gosh good water. You just have so much less control and you've got to come up. You've got to come above it to breathe, and so everyone's always scared of being held under it, and that's a lot of what the movie's about is being underwater and not being able to get up for air. That's my plan. I didn't want people to feel safe in a swimming pool. I'd had enough. It's time to be scared of pools too. They felt left out.
Speaker 8:Well, it's an original, and James and I have both been lucky enough to be involved in lots of movies that have lots of franchises, and so it's always fun to do an original, and Megan was an original last year. So it's very important to both of us that we keep making original horror movies, not just sequels, and that's what Night's Whip missed. It's always better to see a horror movie than a theater. It means better to see any movie than a theater, but horror, especially People. When you're at home, you're always got one eye on the screen and one eye on your phone, and I can't scare you when you're doing that. My job is to scare you as a human, and I can't deliver a scare when you're looking at your phone. So not only does it look better and sound better, but you're focused on the screen and that's the only way I can scare you. They should expect to be very unsettled and scared to death.
Speaker 5:I feel like this kind of stands alone, which is kind of one of the reasons why I wanted to do it. I felt it goes kind of like a unique script. It sort of reminded me of like trailers from like the 80s 90s, so I feel like it sort of stands alone. I don't know, maybe it's just um fun to go to the movies and be scared with like your boyfriend or your girlfriend and like cling to them like you're scared, of course, but you could, just so you can touch them. Maybe I love swimming, so that's a hard one for me. Like everyone said, don't turn you off swimming pools, but it didn't, because I love swimming. Um, swimming at night time is probably a bad idea for anybody, though, isn't it? You're not supposed to go swimming in the ocean at night time, and then I think, if you're swimming in a pool at night time, I kind of think that means maybe you've had a few drinks, which is probably a really bad idea.
Speaker 6:Well, I remember talking to Bryce when he first started um talking about it and he was like, yeah, it's like, draw us in your swimming pool. And I can't believe no one ever made that movie. And I was like, are you sure no one's made this movie? And then I heard someone else say it's like creatures of black lagoon in your pool and it's good, it's good conceit and I think it'll. You know, it's terrifying. I'll make you think twice about jumping in your pool next time at night. Bryce is great.
Speaker 6:I mean, being a first time director is always difficult. There is so much that you have to face that you don't know that you're going to face. Not that I've done it before, but I've seen it, seen it my fair share of times now. And the way he handled himself, the way he handled all the issues that came up because that's inevitably what making movies is is just putting out fires in different places he was great and he was able to capture a essence of water that I think was really interesting and really eerie and creepy and cool. Working with him was seamless and wonderful and he was also the writer, which helps a lot. So, yeah, it was a great experience.
Speaker 6:I hope that they like the family drama aspect of it and that it fits into a psychological thriller category in a way that some slasher movies don't, that it has a little bit more teeth to the story than some horror films or what genre people may think. So I think it can spread beyond just the horror audience. I'm the same way about every movie. If it's a good director, it's a good filmmaker and a good team and a good story, then those are all good things that line up. If it's great people and a story that I don't like, then it may not be for me, but it is always about the people and the story and this seemed to line up that way and hopefully we made a good movie and people like it.
Speaker 6:It's a great boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife, date night movie and it's kind of it would kind of be good to see with your whole family. It's PG-13. So if you got, you know, 10, 11, 12, 13 year olds, anything can handle the movie. It's kind of a fun movie to watch together because it is about a family and it's a little bit terrifying and your 12 year old is going to be going on the pool, going. You know Marco Polo. I hope nothing's underneath there it's. You know, I think it's for everybody. I really do.
Speaker 3:I think, a lot of screams. I hope they're screaming with me. I think that would be really nice so I'm not alone. I think in the past few months I've realized I have a fear of like the ocean, like deep, deep waters. I'm very excited to see in the summer if that carries over into pools. I'm a little scared, but we'll see. Expect to be scared, expect to like, challenge the way that you feel about pools, but also expect to see, hopefully, a cult classic in the future. When I first met him, I found out that we know each other from you know around the corner, from Erica Skoggins, who I've worked with in the past. So that was just a. It felt like I was already in good hands because he was like kind of repped by someone I'm so close with. And then I got to know him and he's just the sweetest guy and I felt so, so nice for him to finally be able to make this into a feature.
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Speaker 1:So to all you people out there who take time listening to the show, that shout out was for you, and this week's bourbon shout out goes out to Tyrell Lee and Danetta, and I remember you told me specifically how to say your name, danetta. If I butchered that, I'm so sorry, but I so enjoy talking to you guys about movies and just be able to talk about self-ighted. So both you, tyrell Lee and Danetta, thank you so much and cheers. As I previously mentioned, this is always a TV show first, before I turn this into a podcast, and when I'm doing that I don't have to have any stress about talking or anything of that nature, because this obviously sometimes I don't hit it out of the park very well, but when I'm making the TV show, that's my happy place. I'm editing about a show, learning about a movie and cranking music, and it always depends on what mood I'm in, depends what I play, when I'm listening or when I'm doing the editing. This week I had just recently made a playlist for the band Kiss.
Speaker 4:You know I have almost.
Speaker 1:I think I have all their albums on my device, but I'm like you know, I don't have all my choice, choice songs on there. So before I started editing, like maybe the day before or whatever it was, I made up my choice list for Kiss. I think it was like over 120, some odd songs, I forget what it was, but it's not like over seven hours of music, whatever. But man, I have so many fun fond memories of Kiss growing up. I've seen them several times, with or without makeup. They just always make you just feel good.
Speaker 1:I remember as a kid I used to collect Kiss cards, like you know how. I had baseball cards, I had hockey cards, I had I clicked all kinds of cards, but I also had Kiss cards. I mean, I mean, they were just so ingrained in me growing up and I always felt so bad. They always got such a bad rap from really parents who weren't very educated on them at all, like what have you listened to the lyrics, guys? It's just fun. Rock and roll yeah, sometimes they sing about sex, whoop, dee doo, but they always claim to be like.
Speaker 1:I always heard people say, oh, they're a Satanist or whatever. They have countless love songs and just songs about self-motivation, about just doing better and improving yourself. But they never listened to that stuff. They just listened to what they wanted to see or what they looked like. When they looked at them it's like such children for such adults. I digress. So that's what when I was making this TV show, that's what was cranking in the background, and that list that I made is heavily, heavily the first several albums of theirs. I mean, other stuff is fine too, but my memory laneville is the 70s era and I'm just that, I just cranked that the whole time and I had a blast. Well, that's it. I'm thirsty, my glass awaits. So cheers to you and to the movies. So until next time, be well, be good, and I'm gone. I'm Jeff. Thanks for listening to the Cinema. Judge you.